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IF YOU BELIEVE

Meter: Irregular Appears in 27 hymnals Composer and/or Arranger: John L. Bell Tune Sources: Traditional Zimbabwe Tune Key: G Major Incipit: 51117 65435 6217 Used With Text: If You Believe and I Believe

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If You Believe and I Believe

Appears in 22 hymnals First Line: If you believe and I believe and we together pray Used With Tune: [If You Believe and I Believe] Text Sources: Zimbabwean traditional

Si Creo Yo y Crees Tú

Author: Gerardo Oberman Appears in 1 hymnal Used With Tune: [Si creo yo y crees tú] (51117) Text Sources: Zimbabwe

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If You Believe And I Believe

Hymnal: Sent by the Lord #51 (1992) Lyrics: If you believe and I believe And we together pray, The Holy Spirit must come down And set God’s people free, And set God’s people free, And set God’s people free; The Holy Spirit must come down And set God’s people free. Languages: English Tune Title: [If you believe and I believe]
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If you believe and I believe

Hymnal: In Every Corner Sing #88 (2008) Lyrics: If you believe and I believe and we together pray, Holy Spirit must come down and set God's people free, set God's people free, and set God's people free, Holy Spirit must come down and set God's people free. Topics: Justice, Peace and Freedom Tune Title: [If you believe and I believe]
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If You Believe and I Believe

Hymnal: Renew! Songs and Hymns for Blended Worship #168 (1995) First Line: If you believe and I believe and we together pray Lyrics: If you and I believe in Christ and we together pray, the Holy Spirit will come down and set God’s people free, and set God’s people free, and set God’s people free; the Holy Spirit will come down and set God’s people free. Topics: Service of the Word Prayer Songs; The Service of the Word Prayer Songs Scripture: Matthew 18:19 Languages: English Tune Title: [If you believe and I believe]

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John L. Bell

b. 1949 Person Name: John Bell Arranger of "If you believe and I believe" in Wonder, Love, and Praise John Bell (b. 1949) was born in the Scottish town of Kilmarnock in Ayrshire, intending to be a music teacher when he felt the call to the ministry. But in frustration with his classes, he did volunteer work in a deprived neighborhood in London for a time and also served for two years as an associate pastor at the English Reformed Church in Amsterdam. After graduating he worked for five years as a youth pastor for the Church of Scotland, serving a large region that included about 500 churches. He then took a similar position with the Iona Community, and with his colleague Graham Maule, began to broaden the youth ministry to focus on renewal of the church’s worship. His approach soon turned to composing songs within the identifiable traditions of hymnody that began to address concerns missing from the current Scottish hymnal: "I discovered that seldom did our hymns represent the plight of poor people to God. There was nothing that dealt with unemployment, nothing that dealt with living in a multicultural society and feeling disenfranchised. There was nothing about child abuse…,that reflected concern for the developing world, nothing that helped see ourselves as brothers and sisters to those who are suffering from poverty or persecution." [from an interview in Reformed Worship (March 1993)] That concern not only led to writing many songs, but increasingly to introducing them internationally in many conferences, while also gathering songs from around the world. He was convener for the fourth edition of the Church of Scotland’s Church Hymnary (2005), a very different collection from the previous 1973 edition. His books, The Singing Thing and The Singing Thing Too, as well as the many collections of songs and worship resources produced by John Bell—some together with other members of the Iona Community’s “Wild Goose Resource Group,” —are available in North America from GIA Publications. Emily Brink

Ronald F. Krisman

Person Name: Ronald F. Krisman, b. 1946 Translator (Spanish) of "If You Believe and I Believe (Si Tienes Fe, y You También)" in Oramos Cantando = We Pray In Song

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Editor of "If you believe and I believe" in Wonder, Love, and Praise
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